pgadmin3 on macOS "Mojave"

[Bill Evans]

Hello,



I recently upgraded my Mac to the latest version of macOS. Now, when I run pgadmin3, I get a message that it needs to be recompiled, apparently for 64bit.



Is there a plan to rebuild pgadmin3 for macOS Mojave?



I know you’re rather bullish on #4, but it still isn’t up the the usability and usefullness of pgadmin3. It would be great to have the working pgadmin rebuilt for 64 bits while we wait for #4 to mature.



(And, yes, pgadmin3 is indeed getting a bit long in the tooth, but it is still vastly more performant, and a much better UI than pgdamin4. #4 is pretty, though.)

[Jack Royal-Gordon]

+1 - thanks for the heads-up, Bill. I was just about to upgrade, but I guess I’ll hold off until they respond to this request.

Post by Bill Evans
Hello,
I recently upgraded my Mac to the latest version of macOS. Now, when I run pgadmin3, I get a message that it needs to be recompiled, apparently for 64bit.
Is there a plan to rebuild pgadmin3 for macOS Mojave?
I know you’re rather bullish on #4, but it still isn’t up the the usability and usefullness of pgadmin3. It would be great to have the working pgadmin rebuilt for 64 bits while we wait for #4 to mature.
(And, yes, pgadmin3 is indeed getting a bit long in the tooth, but it is still vastly more performant, and a much better UI than pgdamin4. #4 is pretty, though.)

[Strauch, Sheldon]

+1 I too will wait to upgrade Mac OSX until we hear further.

Post by Jack Royal-Gordon
+1 - thanks for the heads-up, Bill. I was just about to upgrade, but I
guess I’ll hold off until they respond to this request.
Hello,
I recently upgraded my Mac to the latest version of macOS. Now, when I run
pgadmin3, I get a message that it needs to be recompiled, apparently for
64bit.
Is there a plan to rebuild pgadmin3 for macOS Mojave?
I know you’re rather bullish on #4, but it still isn’t up the the
usability and usefullness of pgadmin3. It would be great to have the
working pgadmin rebuilt for 64 bits while we wait for #4 to mature.
(And, yes, pgadmin3 is indeed getting a bit long in the tooth, but it is
still vastly more performant, and a much better UI than pgdamin4. #4 is
pretty, though.)

--
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Sheldon E. Strauch
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[Bill Evans]

One addition:


Pgadmin3 works fine on macOS Mojave. But it will not run at all on some future version of macOS. Safe to upgrade; the message is annoying at worst. (But it is a bit annoying.)


Best,



-bill



From: "Strauch, Sheldon" <***@enova.com>
Date: Monday, November 5, 2018 at 10:05 AM
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Subject: Re: pgadmin3 on macOS "Mojave"



+1 I too will wait to upgrade Mac OSX until we hear further.



On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 11:47 AM Jack Royal-Gordon <***@pobox.com> wrote:

+1 - thanks for the heads-up, Bill. I was just about to upgrade, but I guess I’ll hold off until they respond to this request.





On Nov 5, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Bill Evans <***@literacybridge.org> wrote:



Hello,



I recently upgraded my Mac to the latest version of macOS. Now, when I run pgadmin3, I get a message that it needs to be recompiled, apparently for 64bit.



Is there a plan to rebuild pgadmin3 for macOS Mojave?



I know you’re rather bullish on #4, but it still isn’t up the the usability and usefullness of pgadmin3. It would be great to have the working pgadmin rebuilt for 64 bits while we wait for #4 to mature.



(And, yes, pgadmin3 is indeed getting a bit long in the tooth, but it is still vastly more performant, and a much better UI than pgdamin4. #4 is pretty, though.)
--
Look after your data, and your database will look after you. -- Simon Riggs

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M 224-723-3878

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[Dave Page]

Updating to 64bit would require a huge amount of work to first get the code working properly with wxWidgets 3, and then to move to Cocoa rather than Carbon.

It’s not a good use of time given how unmaintainable (and out of date) that code has become - it’s definitely not something I have time to do I’m afraid. Time would be far better spend filling the remaining gaps in pgAdmin 4 (whatever they are - we’ve addressed the majority that were reported).
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Post by Jack Royal-Gordon
+1 - thanks for the heads-up, Bill. I was just about to upgrade, but I guess I’ll hold off until they respond to this request.

Post by Bill Evans
Hello,
I recently upgraded my Mac to the latest version of macOS. Now, when I run pgadmin3, I get a message that it needs to be recompiled, apparently for 64bit.
Is there a plan to rebuild pgadmin3 for macOS Mojave?
I know you’re rather bullish on #4, but it still isn’t up the the usability and usefullness of pgadmin3. It would be great to have the working pgadmin rebuilt for 64 bits while we wait for #4 to mature.
(And, yes, pgadmin3 is indeed getting a bit long in the tooth, but it is still vastly more performant, and a much better UI than pgdamin4. #4 is pretty, though.)

[Jack Royal-Gordon]

Hi Dave,

Understood. I don’t think anyone expects you do that much work; I think we were just expecting/hoping it would be a recompile with a different switch sort of thing.

Jack

Post by Dave Page
Updating to 64bit would require a huge amount of work to first get the code working properly with wxWidgets 3, and then to move to Cocoa rather than Carbon.
It’s not a good use of time given how unmaintainable (and out of date) that code has become - it’s definitely not something I have time to do I’m afraid. Time would be far better spend filling the remaining gaps in pgAdmin 4 (whatever they are - we’ve addressed the majority that were reported).
--
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com <http://pgsnake.blogspot.com/>
EnterpriseDB UK:http://www.enterprisedb.com <http://www.enterprisedb.com/>
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

Post by Jack Royal-Gordon
+1 - thanks for the heads-up, Bill. I was just about to upgrade, but I guess I’ll hold off until they respond to this request.

Post by Bill Evans
Hello,
I recently upgraded my Mac to the latest version of macOS. Now, when I run pgadmin3, I get a message that it needs to be recompiled, apparently for 64bit.
Is there a plan to rebuild pgadmin3 for macOS Mojave?
I know you’re rather bullish on #4, but it still isn’t up the the usability and usefullness of pgadmin3. It would be great to have the working pgadmin rebuilt for 64 bits while we wait for #4 to mature.
(And, yes, pgadmin3 is indeed getting a bit long in the tooth, but it is still vastly more performant, and a much better UI than pgdamin4. #4 is pretty, though.)

[Doug Easterbrook]

well. where there is a will, there is a way.

Pgadmin 3 is open source

the people over a tbigSQL have compiled it for Postgres 10 — and so most of the error messages srtrting the legacy pagadmin 3.2 have been taken out of it.

It doesn’t work for postgres 11 - since the libpq.dll is probably too old,.


anyway, I’ve been using that ,for months, along with pgadmin 4.

its a little harder to find it on the bigsql web site — I don’t use their postgres distribution (I use enterprize db’s).



but it work on mojave, no error messages. Its not 64 bit, but at this time, who cares.

Its just nice that it works with postgres 10.




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Post by Jack Royal-Gordon
Hi Dave,
Understood. I don’t think anyone expects you do that much work; I think we were just expecting/hoping it would be a recompile with a different switch sort of thing.
Jack

Post by Dave Page
Updating to 64bit would require a huge amount of work to first get the code working properly with wxWidgets 3, and then to move to Cocoa rather than Carbon.
It’s not a good use of time given how unmaintainable (and out of date) that code has become - it’s definitely not something I have time to do I’m afraid. Time would be far better spend filling the remaining gaps in pgAdmin 4 (whatever they are - we’ve addressed the majority that were reported).
--
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com <http://pgsnake.blogspot.com/>
EnterpriseDB UK:http://www.enterprisedb.com <http://www.enterprisedb.com/>
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

Post by Jack Royal-Gordon
+1 - thanks for the heads-up, Bill. I was just about to upgrade, but I guess I’ll hold off until they respond to this request.

Post by Bill Evans
Hello,
I recently upgraded my Mac to the latest version of macOS. Now, when I run pgadmin3, I get a message that it needs to be recompiled, apparently for 64bit.
Is there a plan to rebuild pgadmin3 for macOS Mojave?
I know you’re rather bullish on #4, but it still isn’t up the the usability and usefullness of pgadmin3. It would be great to have the working pgadmin rebuilt for 64 bits while we wait for #4 to mature.
(And, yes, pgadmin3 is indeed getting a bit long in the tooth, but it is still vastly more performant, and a much better UI than pgdamin4. #4 is pretty, though.)

[Strauch, Sheldon]

Doug,

Agreed. I've looked for BigSQL's build of pgAdmin3 on their web site but
have only found it bundled with their installer, which would be fine if it
allowed you to deselect BigSQL itself. How are you installing it? Could you
kindly provide a link to the correct page of their site?

Post by Doug Easterbrook
well. where there is a will, there is a way.
Pgadmin 3 is open source
the people over a tbigSQL have compiled it for Postgres 10 — and so most
of the error messages srtrting the legacy pagadmin 3.2 have been taken out
of it.
It doesn’t work for postgres 11 - since the libpq.dll is probably too old,.
anyway, I’ve been using that ,for months, along with pgadmin 4.
its a little harder to find it on the bigsql web site — I don’t use their
postgres distribution (I use enterprize db’s).
but it work on mojave, no error messages. Its not 64 bit, but at this time, who cares.
Its just nice that it works with postgres 10.
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Hi Dave,
Understood. I don’t think anyone expects you do that much work; I think we
were just expecting/hoping it would be a recompile with a different switch
sort of thing.
Jack
Updating to 64bit would require a huge amount of work to first get the
code working properly with wxWidgets 3, and then to move to Cocoa rather
than Carbon.
It’s not a good use of time given how unmaintainable (and out of date)
that code has become - it’s definitely not something I have time to do I’m
afraid. Time would be far better spend filling the remaining gaps in
pgAdmin 4 (whatever they are - we’ve addressed the majority that were
reported).
--
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
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+1 - thanks for the heads-up, Bill. I was just about to upgrade, but I
guess I’ll hold off until they respond to this request.
Hello,
I recently upgraded my Mac to the latest version of macOS. Now, when I run
pgadmin3, I get a message that it needs to be recompiled, apparently for
64bit.
Is there a plan to rebuild pgadmin3 for macOS Mojave?
I know you’re rather bullish on #4, but it still isn’t up the the
usability and usefullness of pgadmin3. It would be great to have the
working pgadmin rebuilt for 64 bits while we wait for #4 to mature.
(And, yes, pgadmin3 is indeed getting a bit long in the tooth, but it is
still vastly more performant, and a much better UI than pgdamin4. #4 is
pretty, though.)

--
Look after your data, and your database will look after you. -- Simon Riggs

Sheldon E. Strauch
*Data Architect, Data Services *
*O* 312-676-1556
*M* 224-723-3878

*Enova International, Inc.*
*This transmission is confidential and may be privileged or proprietary. If
you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to use the
information in this transmission in any way. Please inform the sender
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[Darren Duncan]

Mojave is just saying that the NEXT MacOS version coming out in a year will
require 64bit apps. This is a nag. But if you want to keep using PgAdmin3,
Apple will still be releasing security updates for Mojave for the next 3 years
so you have that long to still be fully patched with it. -- Darren Duncan

Post by Bill Evans
Hello,
I recently upgraded my Mac to the latest version of macOS. Now, when I run
pgadmin3, I get a message that it needs to be recompiled, apparently for 64bit.
Is there a plan to rebuild pgadmin3 for macOS Mojave?
I know you’re rather bullish on #4, but it still isn’t up the the usability and
usefullness of pgadmin3. It would be great to have the working pgadmin rebuilt
for 64 bits while we wait for #4 to mature.
(And, yes, pgadmin3 is indeed getting a bit long in the tooth, but it is still
vastly more performant, and a much better UI than pgdamin4. #4 is pretty, though.)